quotes from a PUA guru, and an ex girlfriend

I was thinking back to the community and some of the guys say that sometimes I'm too harsh on it because when the bs clears they are being helped by these guys and their game is so much better than their AFC days and I agree but hey there's a ton of free resources for the guys who don't have the $479 for DVD's or $2500 for bootcamp. There's Pickup Podcast which I recently discovered a few months back and there's tons of forums, blogs and everything else. I personally like Pickup Podcast and Fastseduction.com because they are more central and not geared to one company or another. Seduction Chronicles is good to read also. The guy on that site does a good job to stay in the middle and not lean towards one side or the other.

Anyway back in '07 I was having a conversation with a very well known PUA. I was sitting there in the club sipping my Captain Morgan and pepsi and he was downing his soda and he was asking why I wasn't trying to be an instructor and I told him I just didn't feel like taking guys all over and teaching them how to pickup women. It wasn't my passion. And he leaned over to me and said "dude this is big business, there is money to be made here and if you don't get your piece of the pie then someone else will" Now I don't remember the whole conversation obviously but I do remember some of the things he said which hold true till this day.
Some memorable conversation pieces from that night:

"I never want to go back to a 9 to 5, if I have to push products and encourage bootcamps I will but this is the life for me!"

"We want to push this more mainstream. Who cares what the public thinks, who cares if someone gets called out, the more this is mainstream the more guys will look for us and the more business they bring in. Fuck that underground shit thats so 2000 we are fucking stars man and this is one its way to being a multimillion dollar industry!"

"Dude do you think Nortons and McAfee and whoever else wants there to be no more computer viruses? If everything ran smoothly those companies would go under! There needs to be viruses or the potential threat of possible viruses for those companies to stay afloat. We have to keep taking this to the next level, in our case we want more AFC's in the world so we can reach out to them and help them and keep business flowing"

"he doesn't get laid that much but he's a good instructor, man you know sometimes it isn't about who is getting the women its about whether he can explain our technology and teach it to some guy who doesn't get women and pickup"

That was what stood out to me in our conversation. Some guys go on and on about these gurus
wanting to be rich and make money. Hey I want to be rich and make money also so I don't fault that but at what expense? Some of these companies and coaches have a conveyor belt mentality of get them in, get paid and ship them out the door. And there are plenty who have the celebrity mindset of wanting to be known and wanting some claim to fame. Trust me when you get a big named PUA sloshed up on a little alcohol and the truth starts to come out you hear things that make you do a double take! The truth is I could've easily been an instructor. I've ran game so much better than 50 percent of the instructors I've seen in the field and in all honesty I'm not really that great. But you don't have to be great to pickup women. You just have to be on that night in that moment. It all has to click.

Now for your entertainment pleasure this was from a conversation with an ex of a former instructor guru of one of the big four or five companies out there. I ran into her at a Starbucks one evening and I knew her from when the two of them dated for a good 3 months we exchanged emails and this is what she wrote about the super PUA guru:

"he kept asking me to go out with him in a joking manner after I wouldn't return his calls and finally I did and he started out cool but sexually he was bad and so that was a turn off for me. I'll let it go for a few weeks but it was every time we had sex he had problems getting it up and when he did he'd lose it way to fast or come way to fast. After I broke up with him he would drive by my apartment at like 3 or 4 in the morning and it was freaking me out. He would also send me these emails about how he's good with women and he teaches guys how to be better men with women and who he knows and has been out with, it was rather pathetic but thats when I found out about this pickup stuff, I never knew he was involved and I didn't mind except for him bragging or begging me to go out when he's supposed to be good with women"

Just goes to show that not all of your gurus are seduction artist. And now you understand why I wont name names either. Have a good one.